Wednesday, 26 March 2008

Nexus

LATINUM, the name of the Latin language learning podcast offered on mypodcast.com . The Free Online Language Course.

Latin Links

This is not going to be your typical links page, but more of a combination of links and short reviews of various Latin educational sites I've stumbled across in my online perambulations.

Of use to a learner of spoken Latin, is the Latin video site started up in March 2008 at the University of Kentucky. Here you can watch snippets of conversation in spoken Latin. If you have reached around lesson 40 in Adler, you should be able to get the gist of what is being said pretty well. This site is constantly being added to, and should prove very useful to users of Latinum. The main differences you will note is that some speakers are not clear with vowel quantity in their spoken Latin, others are excellent, and the circumflex accent (rising and falling tone on a long penultimate) that I use in Latinum, is not used by these speakers, so their Latin sounds 'flatter'. These speakers represent the best speakers presently on the planet, so you can assess your own progress against these speakers. There are at present only a handful of people on earth who can speak as fluently as Terentius or Milena. With over 1 700 regular users of the Latinum podcast as of 2008, this situation will hopefully change over the next few years, as users of the podcast aquire familiarity with the spoken language.

One advantage, to my mind, of using correct vowel length (and the circumflex) is that it gives you time to slow down, and draw out a word when you need time to think, so that your speech becomes more flowing.


Textkit has a lively forum, most of the posting is in English, some posters use Latin. Textkit is the effective 'user form' for the Latinum podcast, for when you have a grammar question. Eclassics is a new and fast growing site, where you can set up a user profile with a photo or avatar, keep a blog, and in addition share videos and photos with other students and teachers of Latin. The site is growing fast. I'm a member! Please do join.

Looking around online, I have found almost no-where where it is comfortable to write publicly in Latin, without the fear that someone will come along and correct you. This fear of being corrected, and indeed, being corrected, is, I think, counterproductive when learning a language. One has to produce it, lots of it. errors resolve themselves through further study and reading. Given the numbers of people studying Latin around the world, there is a paucity of writing in Latin itself. Schola provides a space where all the writing must be in Latin, and where correcting or commenting on other member's Latin is prohibited.

Radiophonica Finnica has a the most active Latin language forum on the internet - Colloquia Latina. There is also an active Latin language discussion forum on Google groups. There is another active Latin Forum, with a different group of users to the textkit crowd, called Latin Forum. Another Forum, only in Latin, is Fora Latina. For non English speakers, (French/Spanish/German etc) the Latin Forum on Wordreference might be of more interest. Germans can chat about Latin on the Latein Forum. Polish people can chat on their own Forum Latinum. If you want to try and write to someone in Latin on paper, then the Commericum Epistularum Latinum can set you up with a penpal.

For those interested in Spoken Latin, Johan Winge maintains possibly the best set of links for this topic, besides also offering some of his own recordings of Classical Texts read in very accurate restored classical Latin. Johan also has a presence on YouTube, and you can watch him declaiming Vergil. L. Amadevs Ranierivs has his own site in Latin, with a small but growing collection of recordings. It is good to see the sudden growth in the amount of high quality audio Latin online. His is a nice, well designed website. Well worth a look around.Seumas MacDonald's Lingua Latina et Graeca is another new podcast based site, that contains useful material for learning Greek, using Kendrick's Ollendorff text - i.e. using the same methodology used by Adler. Well worth a visit. Seumas has also started to develop his own Latin learning textbook, with accompanying mp3 files, which is published on the same site. Vox Romana is a relatively new Latin podcast, very well worth visiting and listening to, a sort of Ancient Roman Variety Show.


Williams wrote a handy vocabulary list for spoken Latin, arranged by topic. This is a bit old (1829), so many of the words describe professions we no longer have - however, these old words are still useful for talking or writing about historical matters and times past. There are lists of clothing, body parts, metals, professions, etc. Much is very useful and practical. If you are looking for things to read, then bibliography of over 24, 000 online texts in Latin written since the Renaissance, may be of interest. Imaginum Vocabularium Latinum has a growing repository of over 1000 pictures matched to Latin Vocabulary, with no intermediary language, just the image and the Latin word for it. Suitable for Children. The Imaginum Vocabularium Latinum really is an excellent way to expand your vocabulary, especially if you have an interest in writing letters to people in Latin/keeping a diary in Latin (highly recommended) or having a go at speaking it. William's Vocabulary for Speaking Latin (see above) is used as the main source. Sigrid Albert wrote a dictionary "Imaginum Vocabularium Latinum" with the same title, published in 1998, which can be obtained directly from the publisher. It costs around 17 Euro, and this is a very useful text. You can't get it on Amazon etc, only from here. I highly recommend it. If flashcards work for you, then the online Latin flashcards made by Bob Patrick are where you should head to. The "Thesaurus Eroticus Linguae Latinae ( The original text on Google Books) sive Theogoniae, Legum et Morum Nuptialum Apud Romanos Explanatio Nova ex interpretatione Propria et Impropria et Differentiae in Significatu Fere Duorum Millium Sermonum Ad Intelligentiam Poetarum et Ethologorum tam Antiquae quam integrae infimaeque Latinitatis; Edidit CAROLUS RAMBACH. Stuttgartiae 1833. The images on the image based version of Rambach's text are a bit in your face, but I only see the humourous side of it. I think the idea of learning a language to the extent possible without the intermediary of another language is useful....which is what the imaginum vocabularium is all about. Diederich's work on the frequency of words in Latin is useful.


John Piazza's website is always an inspiration. John is working with Bob Patrick, another teacher who uses spoken Latin intensively in his classroom, on materials to help with the study of Latin as a living, breathing language. If you ever wanted to type in Latin, using macrons and other specialised characters used by the Romans, the list of unicode codes for the various marks is useful, and can be found in this list complied by David Perry. A useful site for teachers and students is the elatin site where I keep a blog. There is a useful collection of learning materials at Saint Louis University. This site was built up by Claude Pavur. Claude's reading accelerating machine is something worth trying out sometime. Claude also has some entertaining flash animations for teaching grammatical concepts, and a selection of mp3 readings from Seneca. A site close to my heart is this one - a program to introduce Latin to inner London schools.

Scrinium Latinum is one of the best sites in English about Latin. I have personally been influenced in my approach to Latin study by the essays on this site, written by Dr Harris, Emeritus Professor of Classics at Middlebury. The collection of Latin plays written by Anthony Hodson is really special. Visit this site, read the plays. Enjoy. There is a very interesting video, produced in 2007, on the Latin Immersion programme at Lexington. This programme has also acted as an inspiration for developing the immersion methodology used on the Latinum Podcast. While I'm on the topic of educational institutions, the Classical Journal has a pretty good list of places where you can go and take a degree in classics.





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Monday, 4 February 2008

Schola Review

Schola

Evan Millner has created Schola, a group on the Ning social networking site devoted to Latin conversation. I like his rules:

1. NOS ARTEM SCRIBENDI EDISCIMUS.
2. ERRANDUM EST NOBIS.
3. SCRIBENDUM EST NOBIS LATINE.
4. NEMO LITTERAS EMENDAT. (Don’t correct anyone!) NEFAS EST.

Omnia epistolia non Latina delebuntur.

I commend the idea of just letting poeple try their hand at latin–errors be damned. Too often I see topics where you can’t write a Latin sentence without someone chiming in about an obscure point of grammar or whether or not censeo, puto, cogito or reor is the “right” verb (hey, I’ve written a few myself, so I’m not pointing any fingers). Better to dive in and make mistakes than never try at all.

Added to the blogroll…

Saturday, 2 February 2008

SCHOLA

Cogito nos artem scribendi ediscimus. Utcunque res est, errandum est nobis. Trepidus summus. Sed, scribendum est nobis Latine, in loco jucundus, loco qua nemo litteras emendat. promulgo http://schola.ning.com/

SCHOLA
Schola is a new 'safe' place to write in Latin. Only Latin is allowed,
no other language may be written.

You'll only get comments about your grammar on Schola from other users
if you ask for them. Commenting on other users' use of Latin is not
allowed, unless you're invited by them to comment.

Producing a language is an important part of learning it, and
correcting produced language by a person who is still coming to grips
with it is counter productive if it stops them from producing it at
all. Despite all the people learning Latin, there is little actual
use of the language online in the Fora devoted to Latin, with only a
handful of people regularly writing anything in Latin at all.
Schola is intended to help address this problem, by providing a more
relaxed environment, where people whose Latin is very good can mix
with tyros, and get on with the job of developing their Latin skills
through actual usage of the language.
Most errors resolve themselves over time as study advances, and the
language is used.
Evan.

SCHOLA

You can find out about spoken Latin by listening to the Latinum podcast.

The Latinum Podcast is free, with a free textbook pdf, lessons, and readings, using

the Restored Classical Pronunciation of Latin.
http://latinum.mypodcast.com

Imaginum Vocabularium - Pictures and Latin words - using both photographs and old

woodcuts.
http://imaginumvocabulariumlatinum.blogspot.com/

Schola - a new social site where only Latin is used (It only started on 31 January

'08).
http://schola.ning.com/

These three sites should be enough to help you get on with learning to read, write and

talk Latin.

Monday, 28 January 2008

A waste of time?

Question:I am going into my Sophomore year of highschool and I took Latin 1 H. I ended up loving it, not finding it extremely challenging, and getting my best final grade in Latin, an A+. I am planning on taking Latin all 4 years of school, and I plan on taking Ancient Greek for the next 3 years as well, in hopes that it will be a challenge. (From what I hear, the other, more standard languages offered at my school are not as difficult as Latin, and I don't want to just take the easy way out, thank you very much) Do you think that taking these languages is a waste of time?

Answers:
A waste of time? If you were purely utilitarian, you'd have taken a course in plumbing, not Latin. Of what use is poetry? or Painting? Arguably, none whatsoever.
Latin and Greek have some of the greatest literature written in the history of civilisation. To be able to connect to that, and to the fountainhead of Western Civilisation, in a visceral way, makes learning Latin, and Greek well worthwhile.
Of course, as you already know, having a good knowledge of Latin means you can pretty much make of sense of any Romance language newspaper, and it is a short hop to learning another Romance language.
Have a look at the latinum podcast - you could use it over the summer to speed up your Latin, and start to teach yourself to speak (yes, speak) latin.
http://latinum.mypodcast.com

Latin podcasts

Friday, January 25, 2008

Latin podcasts

Here's the long-since promised link to the Latin-language podcasts:

http://latinum.mypodcast.com/

I haven't had an opportunity to scour the website thoroughly, but there seems to be quite a lot of free, Latin-related material available. Enjoy!

Use and abuse!

On Dec 3, 2007 9:23 PM, scionofthewolf wrote:

> I have yet to receive word from the Thule Society, and I am anxious to
> begin learning Latin. Another site suggested this.
>
> http://latinum.mypodcast.com/
>
> Before I begin, I was wondering if this is a waste of time, or worth
> it. Perhaps someone here has some knowledge of the site in question.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gaius Caedicius Lupus
>
>
>
Re: [newroman] Before I Begin

Salve

The Latinum Podcast is an excellent website. Use and abuse!

Vale.

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