Tuesday, 15 February 2011

Latinum Update


A few milestones were passed this week - Firstly, my booklet 'Declensions' has turned out to be the most popular title on the Tar Heel reader website, being over 50% more popular than the next title on the list according to Gary Bishop, who runs the site. It says something, that a dry book on declensions has beaten the Alphabet, Obama, and Lady Gaga!
Here is the list of the most popular titles.
  1. Declensions
  2. Our First Black President
  3. The ABC Book
  4. Lady Gaga
  5. The ABC Book (yes there are two ABC books at the top of the list)
  6. I am Michael Jordan
  7. Disney Princesses
  8. Three Little Kittens
  9. Cupcakes
Secondly, my YouTube Latin course just passed its 200,000th  upload view.

Schola now has 1,746 members, and continues to grow at a steady pace.

Latinum is also still proving popular,with between 3 and 5 thousand file downloads per day. Total downloads since inception in 2007 is well over 7 million.

Monday, 14 February 2011

De Vestibulo Comenii


De Vestibulo Comenii

Paene cotidie emissiones electronicas ausculto latinas quas gratis praebet auditoribus ille industriosissimus et bene in interreti notus iuvenis Britannus cuius nomen Evan der Millner vel Molendarius. Has emissiones vel pod-casts invenietis ad I-Pod vestrum aptatas apud I-Tunes sub titulo "Latinum." Ab variis fontibus deducit locos suos Evan noster, amabilis fautor rerum classicarum et, ut videtur, humanisticarum, nam apud situm eius nuper inveni PDF antigraphum illius libri scholaris nomine "Vestibulum Ianuae Latinitatis" a Johanne Amos Comenio conscripti. Libellus quam pulcher est! Exemplar Molendarii Latinas sententias praebet iuxta sententias hungarice versas, quae Latinae procul dubio erunt utilissimae discipulis linguae archaeograecae, quo sermone hic vertam in usu alumnorum carissimorum.
Introitus    ἡ εἴσοδος
  1. Venite pueri.            Ἔλθετε, παῖδες,
  2. Discite latinam linguam,        μάθετε γλῶτταν Ἀττικήν
  3. Pulchram et elegantem.        καλὴν καὶ κομψήν.
  4. Comprehendite,            Συλλάβετε,
  5. pro vestro captu,            ὥς γε κατὰ ὑμᾶς,
  6. varias res,                ποικίλα πράγματα,
  7. sapientiae semina.            τὰ τῆς ἐπιστήμης σπέρματα.
  8. Deus vos iuvabit,            Θεὸς συνεργήσει,
  9. praeceptores amabunt,        οἱ διδάσκαλοι φιλήσουσιν,
  10. alii laudabunt,            οἱ ἄλλοι ἐπαινήσουσιν,
  11. ipsi gaudebitis.            ὑμεῖς αὐτοὶ χαιρήσετε.
  12. Si principium difficile,        Εἰ χαλεπὴ ἡ ἀρχ    ή,
  13. medium erit facile,            τὸ μέσον ἔσται ῥᾲδιον ποιῆσαι,
  14. finis iucundus.            τὸ τέλος ἡδύ.

Saturday, 1 January 2011

Language Teaching in Ancient Rome

A historical perspective on Latin/Greek teaching : Evan der Millner This topic is a very wide ranging one – and a brief essay such as this, can only hope to cover the subject giving the barest of outlines. In this essay, I will mainly concern myself with what could be called the Rudiments of language education. I will also point out that some 'new' methods are actually not new at all. We are fortunate in knowing rather a lot about how the Romans went about teaching their children.
Rome was a bilingual society – so education always involved an element of second language teaching. For contemporary foreign language teachers, the surviving evidence is fascinating. Most of the direct evidence we have for language teaching dates from around the end of the third century, but we have an abundance of indirect evidence as well – fragments of papyri, ostraca and wax tablets, a syllabary inscribed on a tomb wall in Egypt that had been turned into a classroom, and, the most surprising survival of all, that body of texts now known as the hermeneumata.From around the same time period, we have the elementary Latin grammar of Donatus, which was composed for Roman boys who already spoke Latin. My discussion of Latin education will keep returning to the hermeneumata, and Donatus, whose echoes keep reverberating through the curriculum down the centuries, except for a brief hiatus during the 'philological period' of the nineteenth century.
What were the hermeneumata? They were standardised texts,used across the Empire to teach Roman boys Latin or Greek, depending on which end of the Empire they found themselves in. They appeared to serve two purposes – they acted as primers in the child's native language, and were also used to teach a second language. The texts we have are bilingual in Latin and Greek. Most of the examples come from the Western Empire. However, we can see the uniformity of these texts across the Empire, as a Greek-Latin-Coptic example survives, that is almost identical to one of the European versions. Although the earliest surviving text we can date is from September 11 207 AD, the standardised format of the manuscripts would suggest that the methodology – probably originated by Greek pedagogues - was already well established by this time. The hermeneumata contain a number of elements – vocabulary lists for everyday life arranged by theme, vocabulary lists  arranged alphabetically, simple dialogues designed to activate the vocabulary, narratives, and simplified fables. The dialogues aim to relate to a boy's everyday life, while also inculcating the virtues of good citizenship – piety and virtue. We know that authors such as Aphthonius especially wrote simplified versions of fables for inclusion in primary textbooks. (N. Holzberg 2002, The Ancient Fable) These, and short, often humorous dialogues and narratives, were the elementary literature used in the Roman schoolroom. (Anglo-Saxon Conversations, Gwara and Porter. 1997)
Basic education started off with the alphabet, followed by the learning of syllables – extensive tables of syllables were composed. (Bonner,1977, Education in Ancient Rome). Each consonant was in turn combined with the five vowels – ba be bi bo bu, ca ce ci co cu, and so on, through the alphabet. This practice originated, once again, with the Greeks. An excellent reconstruction of a Roman syllable table can be found in the Institutionum Grammaticarum of Aldus Pius, (MDVII, Venice) whose comprehensive table of syllables stretches over five pages – consonants in front of vowel, vowels in front of consonants, two or three consonants in front of vowels, etc. Pius writes” Imitati autem sumus antiquos et graecos et latinos grammaticos. Discant igitur pueri quot syllabarum sint dictiones”.
The primary reader ascribed to Julius Pollux, who was tutor of Commodus, is worth looking at as an example of a Roman lesson book. Written in the late second Century, this text begins as follows: (I have interpolated Comenius' sixteenth Century take on this, to show the direct influence of the Classical model) “Bona Fortuna, Dii Propitii! Praeceptor, Ave! (c.f Comenius: Salve, Lector Amice!) Quoniam volo et valde cupio loqui graece et latine, rogo te, magister, doce me. (c.f C: Quis docebit me hoc?) Ego faciam, si me adtendas. (C: Ego, cum Deo) Adtendo diligentur..... Pollux then lays out his method : “Duo ergo sunt personae quae disputant, ego et tu. Tu es qui interrogas, ego respondeo. Ante omnia, lege clare, diserte” We see the same principle operating in Donatus, whose Ars Minor is constructed as a sort of grammatical dialogue. “Verbum quid est? Pars orationis cum tempore et persona etc” (Gramatici Latini, Keil). Donatus is providing a textbook, and also the suggested outline of a lesson plan for the praeceptor.
This method of teaching continues through the Carolingian period, into the Middle Ages, and into the Renaissance, when several hermeneumata texts were 'rediscovered', with so many other Classical texts. (Colloquial and Literary Latin, Dickey and Chahoud, Cambridge 2010).
The influence of these rediscovered texts on Erasmus, Vives and, particularly, Comenius, was immense. A large part of the renaissance educational enterprise was a deliberate attempt to revive the methods of the ancients.  Parsing grammars – more detailed than Donatus, and aimed at second language speakers, had started to appear even earlier, constructed entirely on the dialogic principle – composed in a self conscious effort to imitate  classroom practice in Ancient Rome. (exemplified by Priscian's famous “Partitiones duodecim versuum Aeneidos principalium”).
The Roman method of teaching was lauded by Simon Grynaeus, in a letter included in the 1536 Basil edition of Polluxes Onomasticum, which itself formed the model for Comenius' Janua, and Orbis Pictus. The influence of the Omonasticum and the ideas in Grynaeus' letter, on Comenius, are self evident. “non gravabitur praeceptor, praesentes ipsasque si potest, si non potest, pictas, sculptas, aut quomodocunque seu verbis seu gestibus expressas bene certa cum nomenclatura res, principio puerilibus oculis animisque quam diligentissime subjicere”
In the 1800's there was a move away from this Classical Roman method of teaching, to a newly invented method I would characterize as grammar-translation, with an emphasis on only using texts that were written by the Romans themselves. A Latin sentence not penned by a Roman of the Golden Age, was not Latin worthy of consideration, and no student should set their eyes on, or be corrupted by such a thing. Aesop was rejected, as were parsing grammars, dialogues, and the short narrative stories that had been the stock in trade of second language education in Latin  for over 2000 years.
Teaching Latin came to mean teaching grammar, and reading Latin came to mean translation. The methods that had been used since Roman times, in a more or less unbroken tradition, were largely abandoned. Aesop, who was a staple of the Roman and Renaissance primary classroom, was abandoned, depriving students of a rich source of easily digestible Latin. Aesop's place in the Latrin curriculum is now so unfamiliar, few teachers have any idea of what to do with an Aesop fable, or its pedagogical utility.
Dialogue went the same way. Students were often thrown straight into Caesar,  or some such author, as the primary text, before being rapidly exposed to Virgil, and quite advanced Classical literature. This represented a total break with the Classical tradition.
In the name of 'authenticity', a new and artificial method of Latin pedagogy arose, one that bore little relationship to its Roman predecessor. Perhaps it was felt that, as Latin was no longer required as a spoken idiom, the teaching method should change: As Comenius noted:  “discendae sunt non omnes totae ad perfectionem esse, sed ad necessitatem. Nec enim est opus Graeca et Hebraica tam expedite sonare, ut vernacula, quia homines desunt cum quibus loquamur." Comenius astutely noted , however, “Omnis lingua usu potius discatur quam praeceptis. Id est, audiendo, legendo, relegendo et transcribendo”.
It should not make a practical difference if a language needed to be spoken: the teaching method should not change. Thus we find many modern courses, with their mix of grammar, dialogue and narrative, are far closer to the Classical curriculum than anything we have seen published in over 200 years - however, they only approximate it - we find no modern course, for example, composed with extensive parsing exercises in Latin. Model teacher-student dialogues that provide a template for classroom interaction in Latin, are largely absent, or, in some textbooks, only hinted at. The vast majority of Latin study, is till focussed on grammar and translation.

Thursday, 30 December 2010

Latinum

На одном форуме Эван Милнер (Evan Millner aka metrodorus aka Molendinarius) изложил (по английски, разумеется) некоторые соображения, касающиеся возросшей актуальности изучения латинского языка в наши дни по сравнению с недавным прошлым. Нынешнюю ситуацию Милнер сравнивает с началом книгопечатания. Некогда печатный станок сделал книги доступными широкому кругу людей и способствовал расцвету латыни, так как многие смогли обратиться к классическим произведениям. В наше время существование электронных библиотек (взять хотя бы Книги Гугл) приводит к тому, что человек, имеющий подключение к интернету, имеет в своём распоряжении не избранные томики Цицерона, а огромное множество пылившихся ранее на полках латинский книг, содержащих двухтысячелетнее культурное наследие. Милнер делает вывод, что для овладения этим наследием сейчас как никогда важно уметь по крайней мете свободно читать по-латински, что требует организации глубокого изучения этого языка.

Эван Милнер - энтузиаст, много сделавший и делающий для популяризации латинского языка в интернете. В частности, он является создателем сайта Schola и подкаста Latinum.

У нас на форуме близкие идеи некогда высказывал Damaskin, см., например, Латынь и эллинский.

Monday, 20 December 2010

Learning Latin with Comenius

Comenius arranged his course in a gradated series:
1. The Vestibulum, with an associated grammar for beginners
1a. The Orbis Sensualium Pictus - an amplified form of the Vestibulum.
2. The Janua Linguarum, with an associated grammar and lexicon.
3. The Janua Linguarum Aurea, with an associated grammar and colloquia.
4. The Atrium, with an associated grammar.
5. A Lexicon wholly in Latin.

How could the student use this material?

1. His or her  first step, should be to listen to the Vestibulum in bilingual audio, until the work can be fully understood in the Latin only. This will mean listening to the book several times. 

Once the student has done this, he or she needs to read the work - there are some digital scans available through the Europeana portal. Simply type "vestibulum" into the search box, the first three or four texts are examples in Latin and Hungarian. These texts can be downloaded as pdf files.


1a. The Orbis Sensualium Pictus is your next step. (If you cannot download the Vestibulum you could begin with the Orbis Pictus) You will notice that you have not been exposed to any formal grammar - this will follow, once you have started to expose yourself to the language, and build up an intuitive structure, and a good vocabulary.
The Orbis Sensualium Pictus is available in audio in a bilingual format on latinum, and also, for revision, in a monolingual format. There are many examples of this text in many languages parallel to the Latin available on google books, europeana, and archive.org
This text needs to be listened to and re-read many dozens of times - it is a long text, and will give you a rich vocabulary of 1000's of words - preparing you for reading a wide range of texts in Latin.

2. Comenius' introductory grammar is not yet available in bilingual form - this text can at present only be accessed through the CAMENA scan of Comenius Complete Educational Works (Opera Didactica Omnia)
here is the link to the introductory grammar: Scroll down to the bottom of the page to locate it, and then click through to read each page.

Once you have studied the Vestibulum and the Orbis Sensualium Pictus, and feel you know the vocabulary, you should consolidate what you know by reading the following texts, which cover the same ground, with differing degrees of variation and amplification of the material.

Reading these subsidiary texts is a useful self-check, to see if you have actually learned the material in the Orbis. If you are struggling, return to the Orbis Pictus, and re-read it a few more times. 








Sunday, 19 December 2010

latinum

: For Latin, check out the YouTube channel of evan1965. He's a chap in London who's made it his mission to teach people Latin orally, as part of which he's posting a series of short videos which, when completed, will in theory form a complete Latin course. He has also done a series of audio podcasts based on a nineteenth-century Latin textbook, which I got a good way through - they vary from a bit impenetrable to very useful. The new video series seems like a lot of fun. I liked it when he introduced the "potus inebriatus vilis" - a big bottle of vodka.

Saturday, 18 December 2010

Sabe latín

Sabe latín

SCHOLA

In foro LATINO estis. Qvidqvid igitur aliter qvam latine compositum delebitur.


Hoy el Náufrago se ha encontrado con una grata noticia, al menoS para él. En este mundial batiburrillo digital que es Internet, donde uno encuentra cosas despreciables, páginas interesantes, herramientas útiles, infinidad de utilidades, también se topa con sorpresas en las que no habría pensado. La que hoy ha encontrado en esta babel de idiomas, es una página escrita en latín, denominada SCHOLA. En ella se pueden encontrar páginas personales, foros de discusión, grupos de amigos, ‘películas’, sección de fotos, chats, todo ello escrito el la lengua de Virgilius, Caesar, o Marcus Tullius Cicero. Todo un hallazgo para alguien que estudió latín en el antiguo bachillerato y dos años más, en la Facultad, en los entonces llamados ‘Comunes’ (cursos), donde se estudiaba además de Lengua, Historias y otras materias, Griego y Latín. Muchos años han pasado desde entonces y este encuentro ha sido una sorpresa agradable . Que en este mundo donde imperan las ciencias físicas, químicas, económicas y políticas, las tecnologías, antiguas y nuevas, las ingenierías y demás estudios técnicos, donde las lenguas clásicas van despareciendo de los 'curricula', constatar que hay gentes que aún se sirven de nuestra lengua madre para comunicarse entre sí es, para el Náufrago, una gran noticia, aunque haya olvidado mucho de aquello que estudió.

Le satisfizo doblemente, que haya alguien que se dedique al cultivo de conocimientos, considerados ‘inútiles’ en nuestros planes de estudio, y también porque, con un poco de esfuerzo, pudo ver que no se había olvidado del todo de declinaciones, conjugaciones y sintaxis. De este modo, y con un poco de esfuerzo, pudo llegar a entender, con más o menos acierto, lo que Andrew Semipalatins , un Kazakhstaní, preguntaba a sus ‘disputatores et disputatrices’ del ‘forum’. Decía así si comentario:
“Salvete disputatores disputatricesque forumi Scholae!

Velim, ut quisque de rebus in regione sua nobis proponeat. In animo crisim habeo.In Kazakhstania, ubi habito (quae in Asia centrali est), male res se habent. Fabricae sistunt, hominibus munus adimitur, merces per multos menses non solvitur. Etiam milites et custodes publici domum dimittuntur! Quid in anno proximo erit? Quid de rebus his malis putatis?"
Más o menos, diccionario en mano , el Náufrago llegó a entender qué preguntaba a sus ‘dialécticos y dialécticas’ sobre las medidas que estaban tomando en sus respectivos países para aplicar a la crisis que también llega a ‘Kazakhstania,’ donde vive : se cierran fábricas, crece el desempleo, pasan meses sin poder cobrar los sueldos. Incluso a militares y agentes públicos. que los mandan a casita. ‘¿Qué ocurrirá el año que viene? se pregunta ¿Qué pensáis de todo esto? añade

Gran pregunta la de Andrew que ni en Kazakhstano, ni en inglés , ni en latín, ni en español tiene respuestas sin mentiras. Pero más allá de esta endemoniada pregunta, el Náufrago ha celebrado que en Kazakhstan haya gente que utiliza el latín para comunicar con sus amigos alemanes, griegos, norteamericanos, yugoslavos, italianos, argentinos o rusos.
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- Ref: SCHOLAhttp://schola.ning.com/

4 comentarios:


María dijo...
¡¡Hola queridos náufragos!! Pues aún cuando pienso como tú y me encante que la gente sea tan erudita y derroche tanta sapiencia, yo si me sacan del rosa, rosae.. poco más puedo decir en latín y mucho menos entender, salvo que por intuición y por ciencia infusa me inspire el Espíritu Santo... Vosotros que podéis, disfrutadlo. P.D. Julio, he visto vuestra respuesta en la segunda entrada después de esta, donde mataban al pobre GiGI...¿Tú crees que me miro el ombligo?...Intentaré no hacerlo... No sé, si os he entendido bien. Montón de besos para los dos.
Julio dijo...
Querida, María Esta respuesta se dirige ante todo al comentario al que aludes. En ningún momento me refería a ti. Cuando escribí:"Me gustaría decir que todo va bien, que progresamos, que somos amables, comprensivos, tolerantes, pero tengo la impresión de que cada día nos miramos más a nuestro querido ombligo"... me estaba refiriendo a la SOCIEDAD que estamos creando, sin referirme a ninguna alusión particular. En todo caso, en ese 'nos miramos el ombligo' podría aplicármelo a mí, en la medida que si viera cosas semejantes, ne diera la vuelta para no tener problemas. Espero que quede aclarado. No es mi estilo involucrar a otras personas en asuntos como el que estamos tratando, gratuitamente. No tengo ningún motivo para ello, sino al contrario. Besos.
Sylvia Otero dijo...
Hola Julio, Muy buena idea la de Andrew. Lástima que yo no entiendo latín, aunque el "que es estum??" lo entendí perfectamente :-) Cuando empecé a estudiar griego me preguntaron para qué lo hacía. Muchas personas piensan que los estudios siempre tienen que tener una utilidad práctica inmediata o que sea redituable. Se ve que aquello de que el saber no ocupa lugar ya no corre más. Un beso,
Julio dijo...
Hola, Sylvia Pues sí, la gente llama 'útil' a todo aquello que sirve para ganar dinero, tener comodidades. Lo que 'sólo' sirve para enriquecernos por dentro, no cuenta. Más de una vez oí a mis alumnos (muchos padres también lo piensan) : - "¿Y esto para qué sirve?" La respuesta es obvia: "Para que no hagas preguntas tan tontas". Besos

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